It's Round 2 Of The World Vs Indie!

added 21 July 2008 at 16.26

The Independent steams in with a strongly-worded editorial slating the "guitar-gelled Polyfilla" that's sweeping the nation. But are they talking pants, or do they have a point?

The Independent are the latest media bastion that have steamed in on the "Indie Music: Is It All Over?" argument. Last week, Luke Pritchard of The Kooks claimed that "indie" had been "diluted" by bands like The Pigeon Detectives and remembering the golden years of 2005 as a hotbed of invention and talent.

Now comes a broadside from broadsheet The Independent, who claim in an editorial that the music of bands like The Fratellis, The Wombats, The Rascals, The Pigeon Detectives and The Automatic is "uninspiring, guitar-gelled Polyfilla", according to Independent scribe Tim Walker, who goes on to say that "their turgid, tuneless banalities use all the oxygen between ad breaks on XFM [and] they mop up the soggy midday slot on the main stage". Ooh, that hurts.

"'Indie' has become a meaningless term," weighs in former Q magazine editor and broadcaster Andrew Collins. "It just covers guitar bands. But it was never meant to be about a type of music, it was a spirit and an attitude. When I glance around the bands that are supposedly 'indie' today, I don't see any attitude." The bands in the firing line are also being tagged as "mortgage indie" - acts that are strictly careerist and out to make as much money in a short space of time.

"Once these bands stop having hits every day it will dry up," continues Collins. "The kids will get bored. You can't grow up on a diet of The Pigeon Detectives and think you could topple the Government one day. If we end up with 20 years of Tory government, it'll be The Pigeon Detectives' fault."

Xfm wants to know what you think - is this fair comment and are a lot of new bands lightweight pish compared to classics like Oasis, Blur, Bloc Party and Arctic Monkeys?

Or is this a load of meeja twaddle and rewriting history - after all, didn't we get 20 years of Tory rule right after punk originally broke? History lesson: Listen To Xfm's Independent's Day documentaries.

Should these scribes switch off T4 and start searching out some proper indie music. And why are the poor old Pigeon Detectives getting it in the neck all the time?

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